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tv   Molly Hooper on Affordable Care Act Replacement  CSPAN  March 25, 2017 5:59am-6:12am EDT

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care bill and plan and we will. it will happen. and it won't be in the very distant future. i believe there'll be some democrat support that'll happen and it will be an even better bill. i think this was a very good bill. i think it will be even better the next time around. i don't think that's going to be in too long a period of time. >> anything specifically you want to see changed? mr. trump: i don't want to speak about specifics. there were things i would have liked even more. i thought overall this was a very, very good bill. i thought tom price, dr. tom price who really is amazing on health care in his knowledge, i thought he did a fantastic job. same with mike pence. these two guys, they worked so hard, did a fantastic job. thank you very much.
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>> joining us now from statuary hall in the capital is molly cooper of the hill. this is an interesting day in the house. how did we get here? molly: we got here because the republicans did not have the votes to take this bill over the goal line. the reason was there was a small group of republicans who were not going to be voting for it. a number of freedom caucus members retracted their votes, and it was clear that the president was not going to be able to get them. and so basically house speaker paul ryan took a trip down to the white house, have lunch with the president, comes back and hold an emergency meeting, telling them, no microphones from what i am told -- saying
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guess what, here is the deal. we are not going to have the votes. i will not put you on the chopping block. we're pulling it. i do not know when it will come back up. >> so how many votes were we talking about? were there any freedom caucus members who decided to vote yes? molly: it is interesting. as the morning went on, the no votes were piling up. they were going the opposite direction. it is interesting watching the first round of votes on the floor. speaker ryan talking to 1, 2, three people. it was clear from his body language that he was not happy. once these members dug in, there just wasn't any placating him. in fact, vice president mike pence went to the with the freedom caucus party members, and it was clear that they were not going to support the bill. >> are there any near-term prospects for health care legislation now in the house? molly: that is the thing. another long -- a bunch of lawmakers were really upset, because this is something they promised their constituents for the past seven years, since obamacare was signed into law. many of them ran on this issue,
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to repeal and replace obamacare, and many were of said when one lawmaker described himself as lugubrious. and so the president said vote now or move on. they are moving on. >> the president says it is time to move on. he says the aca or obamacare will explode or implode on its own. he mentioned the possibility of bipartisan support for another health care bill in the future. any chance of that? molly: that would be in the next year, according to several leadership individuals i have talked to, republicans. that would not be a repeal, because democrats are not voting for a repeal of obamacare. it would truly have to be a bipartisan effort to repair obamacare, because there are issues in the law. for a repeal of obamacare. it would truly have to be a
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democrats have admitted it. they want to make fixes, but if it's repeal -- anytime that word comes around, democrats will not vote for it. it could be a bipartisan effort much to the chagrin of the caucus members. >> so is there anything congress can do? like speaker ryan said, the phase two part of their plan where secretary tom price can come in and bus with the regulations -- that can happen, it just makes it more difficult in the near term. also, they will be moving on to tax reform next. when they do that, they will be touching parts of obamacare. so we will see smaller changes, but nothing on the scale of having a vote today. >> speaking of tax reform, the president spoke about moving on to that next potentially.
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what does today's lack of success for health care -- how does that speak to the chances of tax reform moving forward? molly: it is unclear at this point. tom rooney said as he was walking out of the meeting, what does this mean for us going forward? he said i don't know. we are in uncharted territory. i don't know. we were sent here to govern and we failed. the republicans need to regroup, get back together, and move forward with tax reform, the president -- something he wanted to pass. he talked about it a lot on the campaign trail. members right now are going home and they are not very happy. >> the house leadership pulling the health care replacement bill today. molly hooper of "the hill" joining us to talk about it. thank you for being here. >> c-span's washington journal,
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live every day with policy issues that impact you. coming up this morning, your reaction to house republicans pulling the health care replacement bill. join the conversation with your phone calls, emails, facebook comments and tweets. be sure to watch c-span's " washington journal." at 7:00 a.m. this morning. >> sunday night on "q and a," a conversation with thomas soul, who recently retired from the syndicated column he wrote for 25 years. >> unlike today's left, i never felt i had to avoid being what people with different views thought. so during all of my years as a marxist, i read everything the political spectrum. i have two this day a book on burke i first read when i was an undergraduate at harvard. i treasure that book. i can tell even then.
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i understood that there were reasons why people have different views. it is not just a question of being on the side against the forces of evil. i think the new administration in washington has some very good people, better than most of -- than most recent administrations have had. the only question is if the president will listen to them, and we will not know until more time has passed. >> sunday night at 8:00 eastern. on c-span's "q and a." conceiving there were not enough votes for passage, paul ryan pulled the republican health care replacement bill minutes before the vote was to take place. first, a look at the final minutes of floor debate before
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the bill was withdrawn. was withdrawn. committee, mr. conway. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for two minutes. mr. conaway: mr. speaker, we're faced with an unenviable choice of the facts that there are infinite demand for health care. there is no top on the amount of health care cost necessary to provide all the health care we want for all the people in this country. and we have limited resources with which to do that. the real question is, is obamacare to take up that task by asking government to make those hard choices? or do we as individuals and families and care givers make those harder choices for ourselves? i believe the bill we'll get to vote on today moves us toward that direction. this isn't about health care per se. it's about how do you pay for it. insurance is not a magic bullet anywhere across the spectrum. it's simply a scheme in which we risk manage together, put a certain amount of money in a bucket assuming not all of us will suffer the risks we want to cover and if we do, we've got to
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put more money in. if we don't, the system works. this is about having to confront that choice that there's way too much cost for the amount of resources available in any of these circumstances. and it's hard. many of my constituents ask, why did republicans spend six years railing against obamacare and not have the fix? this is exhibit a. this is hard stuff. even among republicans, we've got more than 218 and can't agree among ourselves what ought to go forward. but i know this. we're down to the final choice. do we keep obamacare and the failure confronting us and will continue to be there or do we take a chance on moving forward something -- moving toward something different? giving states back the opportunity to decide for their indigent population how should they take care of them? i don't think anybody in washington, d.c. can come up with a plan that fixes that for all 50 states. i trust my colleagues in austin to make that happen far better than anybody in d.c. this bill moves this in the
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right direction. s that hard choice but for me it's relativity -- relatively straight forward. keep obamacare with a no vote, move toward a brighter future for health care in this country and the way we pay for it, who pays for it and how we get that done by a yes vote. i encourage my colleagues to vote yes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady reserves. the gentleman from virginia is recognized. >> i remind my colleague that his vote -- mr. scott: i remind my colleague that a vote for this bill will make things worse by 686,000 people in his district losing health care coverage and care. i yield one minute to the gentlelady from florida, mrs. wilson. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady is recognized for one minute. mrs. wilson: thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, i would like to begin by asking my republican colleagues one simple question. don't you have don't you have constituents who get sick and need an insurance? everyone gets sick, rich and poor, black and white, women, and havingn,
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insurance helps us give us peace of mind. it helps us make sure medical needs are not exacerbated by a financial crisis. if the affordable care act is repealed, your constituents and millions of people will be kicked off their insurance, and that is a shame. they will suffer and their families will suffer. i have health insurance and so does everyone in congress. we even have a clinic and doctors at our disposal in this capital. doesn't every american deserve the same treatment as members of congress? instead of moving backwards, republicans should partner with democrats to amend and strengthen the existing law. by working together, we can create a plan that works for all americans, not just members of congress. vote no.
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[applause] further consideration of hr 1628 is postponed. according to cause 12 a of rule one, the chair to close -- declares the house in recess. [booing] -- said that obamacare was the law of the land for the perceivable future. this is 10 minutes. >> he will explain what went do


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